I really wanted to love these, they look clean, well-made, but they are very uncomfortable, must the stitching of the uppers is such that it's not supple, it crumples and bunches up, giving me blisters that none of my tighter fitting dress shoes do. I had to replace these once to size up a bit. I've been trying to break these in for weeks now but they are still borderline painful. It's not the size, it's how they are made, they are just not flexible enough. I really regret the purchase.